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 01-15-2009, 09:35 Post: 159479
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Our family do a lot of work with the utility companies, both telephone and electric.

If anyone knows how to make a piece of wood stuck in the ground last it's them!

I started using their method years ago, fence posts I put in 20+ years ago that way are still doing fine.

The trick is the dirt, or rather the lack of it. Don't back fill the posts with earth, use "pea stone", a very small round stone, about the size and shape of a pea, thus the name. If you put a layer of it on the bottom of the hole, then drop the post in, and then fill the hole the wood is not touched by wet soil anywhere, and can't absorb any moisture.

I've been out with them replacing poles (that got broken in a storm or such) that were placed long before I was born and that are still just fine when we remove the stub to replace it.

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 01-15-2009, 14:14 Post: 159488
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Enjoy the winter, only 24 below here this morning. Frank.



Well way up here in Cannuckistan we're not quite that cold, it was only -20° F (-30° C) this morning.

Poor ole Deputy Dog stuck his nose out the door and stopped dead in his tracks! I guess he decided if it was that cold out he wasn't going to stick anything else out the door either! He high-tailed it back to the fireplace instead. Crazy dog held his water till nearly 11am when the little lady went out to the garage for more firewood. He went out about 3 steps from the back door, lifted his leg and raced back inside.

He even stayed home and missed 'coffee break' with the boys. It's pretty bad when he'll pass up a visit! Wink yeah right

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 01-15-2009, 16:17 Post: 159493
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I guess that is a no? No experience with dipping fence posts in oil?



I suspect some people have experience at it, but are unwilling to talk about doing something ILLEGAL on an open forum.

I suspect the reg's are the same pretty much everywhere these days, EPA standard stuff, ZERO petroleum products in the ground or water, especially used stuff, lots of chemical nasties in there.

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 01-16-2009, 10:09 Post: 159509
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Murf- your right, I imagine that if somebodies grandfather when he was a boy had taught him how to dip a log in oil, and then stick it in the ground- all in efforts to keep the small ranch in proper order... well you bet that the EPA would have nothing better to do than to send that poor fellow to prison.



Klein, we work all over the US (and beyond), and routinely have inspections by the authorities, local, county, state and federal. About 3 or 4 years ago on a job in Georgia a Fed. inspector happened to be on the job site, he watched a mechanic scrub his hands with hand cleaner then rinse them off with a garden hose. The inspector asked the job foreman if that was usual practice. The foreman replied it was. The inspector then asked the owner's rep. if he new what they were doing. He said he was aware of it. The inspector then charged the mechanic, the company (not mine) he worked for and the owner with multiple violations each of the regulations and shut down the job for a full investigation. In the end it cost the owner about $250,000 in penalties (he had to pay the contractors for their lost time, etc.) and fines.

It's like speeding, lot's of people do it, but it's illegal and when you get caught it costs.

Something tells me the people behind your organization might be less than happy about being in hot water.

Jeff, up here if the water table is high (like in a bog) they use something they call a 'barrel butt planting'.

They put down a bed of ~1' deep pea stone, then a short 4' - 5' section of 6' - 8' diameter corrugated galv. culvert pipe standing on end, then stand the pole up in the center, then back-fill it with rip-rap (6" - 12" rough broken stone).

The sheer weight of all that captive stone holds the pole vertically no problem.

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